The Lefsetz Letter: The Final Dinner Occasion At The Fonda







I used to be surprised.

If this was 1985, you’d already know their identify, as a result of they’d be throughout MTV.

What we’ve received right here is 5 English ladies and a male drummer who can play, sing and write songs with melodies and modifications. Are you aware how uncommon that’s?

I didn’t wish to go. It’s been sizzling as hell right here in Los Angeles. It’s arduous to get a parking spot in Hollywood. I’m gonna have to sit down there and feign curiosity for an hour and a half. However I already advised myself I used to be going to be trustworthy, I used to be not going to lie. Not that I ever do. However I’d not be enthusiastic if I didn’t really feel it. I wasn’t going to say the band was nice. I used to be anticipating some arduous rock drivel performed poorly extra akin to Metallica than Def Leppard, boy was I stunned.

Sure, The Final Dinner Occasion is managed by Q Prime. I imply why are Cliff and Peter bothering. A brand new band, actually? They’re each of their seventies. Why don’t they simply rely their cash and go residence.

Pleasure… It’s so uncommon as of late. Stuff is nice on paper. Style-specific. Interesting to mind lifeless youngsters who the purveyors don’t have any respect for. In the meantime, the bands of yore promote out stadiums.

Are you able to pour some sugar on me?

Now don’t ask me how folks discover out about bands like this as of late. Was top-down advertising. You’d rent a stylist, a director with chops and make an costly video launching the act to the lots. All people performed the sport, few acts made it via the Pittman sieve. However after they did…

Abbey Konowitch was probably the most highly effective individual within the music enterprise. He determined whether or not you bought airplay or not. After which the KROQ crew, which migrated from Pasadena to NYC and could possibly be seen on either side of the digicam. All of us watched, we knew all of the tunes, after which the CD got here alongside and made the labels and their executives wealthy. Richer than they’d ever been earlier than. I’m not saying that the acts have been broke, now that they might tour all over the world, however there was extra money and extra of it was saved by the labels and…

These are the times everyone yearns for.

Until you’re underneath the age of thirty, after which you haven’t any body of reference, you got here of age within the web period, the place there was a plethora of music and it was each individual for themselves.

However normally it’s solo acts. Platforms for model extension. Little money-makers. The music is simply grease.

After which there are those that aren’t constructed for the mainstream. The Lively Rockers. Interesting to a tough core alienated viewers. Glad that you just don’t get it, don’t prefer it, and don’t go. But it surely doesn’t cross over. There’s an excessive amount of of an edge, an excessive amount of chew, there could be modifications, however the riffs overpower the melody, and there’s lots of shouting and fewer singing.

So what’s a poor boy to do, who even desires to play in a rock and roll band?

It’s ladies. And also you don’t should be a rock star to get laid. However so a lot of these boys at the moment are incels. Ceding the territory to the well-adjusted, the ladies they wish to be with. And their viewers, half of the alternative intercourse.

I’d say it was round 50/50. Possibly 60/40, ladies to males. And the music was removed from wimpy. However they knew the tunes and sang alongside.

And the lead singer stopped the efficiency to provide assist to a girl overcome by the warmth. Historically acts don’t care, they don’t wish to cease the momentum.

However the band and the viewers have been one.

How did they know?

Imagine me, this was not a Clive Davis act, this was not Whitney Houston.

Sure, Clive specialised in what we’ve received in the present day. Drivel. Fairly faces singing pop songs written by others.

That’s not The Final Dinner Occasion.

When you’re genuine, folks imagine, they play your data and are available to see you.

Cliff advised me they might have performed the Greek. 6,000 seats. HUH?

That is the fashionable world. Every thing is spontaneous. Assuming it will get traction in any respect. You’ll be able to’t even push it if you wish to. That’s what the labels are in search of, a conflagration that brings the act from 0-60 in a single day. An edge, a social media breakout. Whether or not they signal the act from TikTok or do their greatest to push it there.

Typically that works, however normally it doesn’t. As a result of the viewers is in management. There’s no PD of the web.

So what it is advisable do is hone your chops and play and…

Are you aware how uncommon that is? Are you aware how typically folks need me to get enthusiastic about individuals who can’t sing? My inbox is inundated with acts who can’t sing, folks questioning why they’re not superstars.

And now I’ll get a rash of hyperlinks from folks believing that there’s some golden ticket on the market, that may convey them to the highest of the heap. However that’s unfaithful.

Some lady at Q Prime within the U.Okay. noticed a video on-line, from some membership, there’s a man who shoots movies of unknown bands there.

The Final Dinner Occasion, then simply The Dinner Occasion, earlier than one other act claimed the identify, had just a few gigs underneath their belt. Cliff and Peter noticed the clip, flew to England and signed them. There have been no socials, there was no information, solely music.

And there was no bidding warfare, nobody else was concerned.

After which the band paid their dues, on the street, made an album with the producer of the Arctic Monkeys, on Island. The U.Okay. is totally different.

Cliff advised me if I’d seen Def Leppard of their first fifty gigs…

However The Final Dinner Occasion is now not tough, it’s over the hump.

Actually, I couldn’t imagine they have been that tight, I haven’t heard something this seamless sans arduous drives in eons.

And it doesn’t matter what you assume. It doesn’t matter what the “gatekeepers” assume. Oh, it is advisable get on a Spotify playlist, that’s the ticket!

No, you solely must be good. Then folks discover you.

However there’s little or no good on the market. And when folks discover it they glom on to it, they imagine in it.

All people desires to be a star. They need a shortcut, they determine in the event that they’re on a TV competitors present…

It’s all positively old fashioned.

However there’s a brand new lady in class. Truly, 5. And the guitarist was taking part in in a pit orchestra earlier than becoming a member of the band.

Don’t trouble to ship me your opinion. It doesn’t matter, I don’t care.

All people focuses on the data, the charts. But it surely all the time comes all the way down to stay, whether or not you’ll be able to promote tickets or not, whether or not the viewers is devoted, whether or not they care.

The Final Dinner Occasion is constructing an viewers and also you’ve by no means heard of them.

Welcome to the fashionable period.


Responses from Bob’s readers. These feedback will not be edited for content material or grammar and will not replicate the views of CelebrityAccess or its workers.

I used to be on the present, sitting within the balcony. I’m 55, and such as you, I couldn’t imagine how tight they have been. My spouse and I found the band in the course of the Coachella streaming and was blown away by Abigail’s stage presence. She has “it,” and it’s not one thing manufactured. She will be able to sing and he or she makes it look simple. TLDP jogged my memory of Jehnny Beth’s fronted band, Savages. I miss them. They have been a power, and TLDP seems to be transferring in the direction of the identical with extra industrial attraction.

It’s good to see a band convey it. We’d like extra like TDLP.

Matthew Grandi

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The band are a throwback. Nice retro sound. Nice total look.

So nice to see a band breaking via as of late.

We have now been working with for the previous yr – sending out a pair singles first after which the LP to varsity/non-com and specialist radio.

Typically you push and push a band. Typically a band pulls you. People like this band. The hipsters. The musicians. The remainder are following. We received the LP to primary on the chart earlier this yr. Not one thing that occurs that always on a debut album. Q Prime’s crew have been on this for certain.

Additionally, must say – Island have been too. With Final Dinner Occasion and Chappell Roan – they’ve been placing the time in – and seeing the rewards a yr+ later.

If extra labels would do that…

Adam Lewis / Proprietor
Planetary Group

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When The Final Dinner Occasion Pure Ecstasy was first launched, each time we performed it in our retailer (Euclid Information, in St. Louis, MO) – EVERY SINGLE TIME – there’d be no less than TWO prospects who would cease looking to ask in awe: “What IS this?!?!”

It was a right away buy from them (together with one almost-confrontation between the client who received the final vinyl copy and one other buyer who wasn’t quick sufficient). Very like the Chappell Roan, we are able to’t hold their vinyl in inventory.

The great thing about that is that folks merely react to what they HEAR. They know nothing about them, however after listening to a observe or two, they should have it. Moments like these are why report shops are sacred locations, sure?

The great thing about the album is it will get deeper, richer and extra monumental with repeated listens. And listening to it as an entire, from begin to end. So the band made a basic ALBUM; no filler tracks round video “singles.”

Our prospects (of all ages) most frequently make fast and simple comparisons to Kate Bush. And it’s not. However “Kate Bush” is outwardly the shorthand for complicated, dramatic and melodic female-sung music.

Glad (and envious) you bought to see them stay. Thanks for sharing!

Cheers,

Toby Weiss

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I like this band a lot. England has been into TLDP for a very long time, comparatively talking. I resisted checking them out as a result of I saved listening to about them and thought I wouldn’t be into it—this was finish of ’22 and high of ’23 after I was in search of the place I would wish to transfer. Lastly I relented and dove in—it was simply the music, musicianship and the songcraft that received me over, earlier than I even knew about how incredible their stay present was and what an absolute excellent rock star Abigail Morris is. And the very best half is, it doesn’t even matter that they’re feminine, that’s simply the icing on the cake. They’ve captured lightning, I hope they will grasp on to it.

Was simply in LA, bummed I missed the Fonda present.

xK
Kathy Valentine

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Suffered some backlash for being “trade crops” within the U.Okay. however these rumours have been kind of uncovered as false. The singer has all the time had musical ambitions, moved to London to make demos but additionally to go to high school. Met two of the others within the few first few weeks of uni, the opposite two have been pals of pals. They met after which ‘bang’ — COVID lockdowns. That gave then time to jot down, rehearse and develop a sound, they usually emerged totally fashioned musically.
The album is great.

John Kendle

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You….fortunate….DOG!

I knew you’d dig em’..I ship you lots of “recs”, I do know, however solely that which is nutrient-dense, with that old-school ethos..

I noticed them acting at a competition earlier this yr..By way of Hulu or Prime.. Kicking ass in a sweaty little tent, whereas the DJs held courtroom on the large levels..I’ve been hooked ever since..

I not too long ago heard “The Female Urge” in a film.
Possibly it’ll be Shazamed by the curious..Kelly Clarkson coated “Nothing Issues”..They’re making the rounds on the competition circuit..

They’re one meme, one “shout-out” from Taylor Swift, one opening slot away from the following rung..

James Spencer

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I learn your publication recurrently and have typically questioned when you take heed to The Spectrum or Alt Nation on SiriusXM. Primarily based in your questioning the place folks discover out about The Final Dinner Occasion and different artists I hear recurrently on these two stations, it appears that evidently you don’t. A few of these bands have been most likely featured on XMU earlier than making their strategy to extra “mainstream” stations. I’m in my mid-50s and don’t take heed to XMU, however The Spectrum and Alt Nation are two of my favorites within the Sirius lineup. Give them a shot!

~ Gina Gasparini
Metro Atlanta

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Within the UK, the place this band are from, they broke the outdated approach – BBC radio, some TV performances on chat exhibits after which a heavy bodily pre-order marketing campaign to jam the album into the charts. The BBC has little energy to do that anymore however by specializing in 6 Music and BBC Radio 2 there’s the flexibility to have the older demographic, who nonetheless take heed to linear radio, achieve consciousness of a band. It’s the identical technique utilized by Moist Leg a few years in the past (additionally feminine band). This can be why within the UK, folks inform me the crowds on the exhibits for each bands are principally center aged white males. (You’ll be able to learn an article I wrote about how this technique is nearly lifeless right here).

So within the US it would look like some manifestation of a brand new mannequin of artist improvement however that wasn’t the case right here actually. There’s a separate challenge concerning the UK’s capacity to interrupt expertise which is approach too complicated to get into right here, however on the whole an indie or different band struggles to interrupt through streaming within the UK, therefore the give attention to a dwindling radio viewers and vinyl pre-order.

Cheers

Patrick Clifton

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The purpose is, everyone DOES know the identify of Final Dinner Occasion. Their August date in Denver bought out in minutes final February. Followers additionally know the names of British compatriots like Squid, Dry Cleansing, English Instructor, Black Nation New Street, Moist Leg, Black Midi, Yard Act, Sports activities Staff….. However the of us who know are these in highschool, faculty, 20s-ish, possibly a number of 30s. However such bands and solo acts all are largely invisible not solely to boomers, however to many if not most of their 40s and 50s. The unifying issue is now a mixture of TikTok, streaming providers, Bandcamp, and many others., and when you’re not maintaining with a mixture of every part, lots of the very best new pop stays invisible.

Loring Wirbel
Monument, CO

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Like it Bob!

I heard them on the radio (WXPN and WFUV) final yr… nice band!

Patrick Pierson

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Noticed a pic of them this morning with Russell Mael cuz they’re doing “This City” so I checked them out. Terrific stuff.

Rob Warden

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Sinner is certainly one of my 2023 favourite tracks. And there’s a lot extra high quality materials!
Nice band.

Greatest,

Aldo Blardone

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They’re nice – and, sure, I heard of them, as a result of I take heed to BBC Radio 6!

Bob Flint
Springfield VT

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Anybody with ears ought to have been in a position to hear that The Final Dinner Occasion are completely great. Possibly it’s as a result of I’m studying from my three daughters, however man, they’re good. We’re in the course of a pop second to which you and I aren’t invited – The Final Dinner Occasion, Chappel Roan, Dua Lipa – hail, hail the brand new era of pop, complicated as hell and free from the boys.

David Frail

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Been a fan of this superior band for a yr now. I can actually let you know how a terrific many people out right here in hoi polloi land discover this nice new music: YouTube response channels. That’s the identical approach I used to be launched to Ren virtually 2 years in the past (and who’s now my favourite musical artist on the planet). YouTube reactors, the great ones, carry out the identical service the great DJs and program administrators used to offer again within the heyday of radio, that of spreading the gospel of proficient new artists, particularly impartial ones. BTW, the actual hotbed of nice new music isn’t the US however the UK, IMO.

Marty DeHart
Nashville, TN

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Enjoying their present album on Spotify.
Immediately catchy. I’m hooked. This sounds prefer it got here out of the 90s like Shakespeare’s Sister.
Good name! I’m all the time in search of new bands!

Turk

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Nice band. Have already got their album pegged for my yr finish checklist. Nothing Issues is a good music from it.

Their rise jogs my memory a bit of Moist Leg final yr. Lady rockers appear to be sizzling proper now.

Craig Davis

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Love TLDP.

Heard’em on Spotify.

On my launch radar. Heard the one which led me to the album which led to me mentioning them to plenty of pals. Now I can simply ahead your letter.

Thanks.

Louis Heidelmeier

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I didn’t acknowledge the identify till I listened to their album and heard “Nothing Issues”.

“Nothing Issues” is an enormous single for them and seems on lots of Spotify playlists.

The band additionally performed Coachella and Glastonbury this yr. They aren’t actually an unknown commodity.

Nonetheless it sounds prefer it was a superb present at my present favourite venue.

Larry Inexperienced

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I like their sound and elegance Bob. Thanks for this.

Dan Inexperienced

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Bob, I heard them on the Sirius Spectrum channel after which noticed a stay video. Love the songs, the sound and the look. Completely get why Cliff and Peter (outdated guys like us) snatched them up. For all of the tastemaking SNL purports to do, I’ve been amazed they missed this one.

Been preserving my eye out for the tour. I’ll go for certain.

Stephen Knill

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Bob – xpn in philly has been taking part in them for a yr or so. Bruce warren has been throughout them. Its stations like xon and other people like bruce that convey the great music to those who want to be enlightened.

Thanks a lot for all you do

Josh millman

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For me, The Final Dinner Occasion was found on Sirius. Channel 35, XMU. They have to play their single ‘The Female Urge’ hourly! However this channel is clearly programmed by somebody (or some folks) who give a sh*t. An eclectic combine of brand name new indie, blended in with indie from the previous 15-20 years. This channel additionally allowed me to find the present ‘Aquarium Drunkard’ (heard each Wednesday). Not solely probably the most assorted two hours of music I’ve ever heard, delivered weekly, but additionally I got here to seek out they’ve an impressive web site and weekly publication for additional discovery. https://aquariumdrunkard.com/

XMU additionally received me into Moist Leg a pair years in the past. One of many funnest recent different data of the previous couple of years.

As somebody who works in terrestrial radio, behind the scenes, radio would be the first to confess it’s not breaking new artists. However new music is on the market, and nice new music at that. You simply gotta go searching!

Thanks,
Ryan Hobson

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…and they’re throughout Different Rock radio proper now. I do know you assume we’re irrelevant, however each little bit helps set up a band with a core constituency. This band is proficient.

rpeters282

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We stay one block north of Exterior Lands in Golden Gate Park and listen to the primary stage loud and clear, particularly when the fog appears to maintain the sound waves from drifting up and away. We’ve ventured to the fest a handful of instances to catch Radiohead, Al Inexperienced, Sharon Jones, Beck, Budos Band, others, however through the years have spent many a chilly, foggy evening bundled up within the backyard having fun with the headliners.

I labored from residence Friday afternoon and was actually stepping into whoever was taking part in, appeared on the schedule and it was The Final Dinner Occasion. I’ve been cranking them on Spotify ever since!

Steve Gillan

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Love this band. Noticed some live performance clips a number of months in the past and was blown away by the power, the gang response, plain ol’ rock and roll exuberance. Can’t wait to catch them stay with my daughter – who at 14 years outdated is approach forward of my musical sophistication at that age. Streaming and social have accelerated her cross-genre musical discovery.

Clayon DuBose

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you noticed and heard what I noticed and heard! as a result of the singer did the identical factor on the present I noticed, referencing somebody who appeared overheated and would possibly want some water or consideration. i ponder if it’s schtick or only a actually sizzling summer time…i used to be dreading parking close to the SLC venue as effectively, planning to make use of the pay storage a number of blocks over, by the Delta Heart, however then I discovered a free avenue area – with tree shade.

Toby Mamis

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Due to the YouTube Coachella stay stream for turning me onto Final Diner Occasion. Abigail is a star. In line for Document Retailer Day, a younger woman ask me if I ever heard of them. Oh sure, I ordered the image disk. Glad you might be onto them, Bob.

John Kauchick

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The Final Dinner Occasion had an enormous buzz when their album got here out final yr, however I hadn’t saved up with them. It’s fascinating to listen to that they’re doing effectively touring the US. Then after all there’s Moist Leg and boygenius. Lurking behind all that is the renewed appreciation for Fanny, who have been a very good band regardless of being seen principally as a novelty of their heyday within the early ‘70s.

Is rock morphing into one thing that’s primarily accomplished by ladies? That could be one thing for a rock author to discover.

Tycho Manson

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??? they’ve had 2 fairly massive singles already

Darryl Duffy

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The net clip of “Nothing Issues” has them sounding like a wannabe ABBA however nowhere as pop highly effective as ABBA was at their greatest.

I hope TLDP are higher stay!

George Gilbert

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Love The Final Dinner Occasion! Seen them twice stay now (their Coachella set was certainly one of my faves of the weekend) and unhappy I wasn’t in a position to snag a ticket to their present at The Fonda. Pleased to see them getting the flowers they deserve!

Kayla Kascht

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6.3 Mill views of a music on YT is way from noone ever listening to of them

Most of us music listeners on Youtube have recognized who they’re for someday

Peter Ferioli

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You’re proper, Bob. They’re nice!

emiltonmyers

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Within the UK, now we have music radio that folks take heed to, music TV that folks watch, music awards which might be related, and music festivals like Glastonbury that folks go to, and are extensively broadcast.
The Final Dinner Occasion have been rising in widespread recognition for a superb yr plus now over right here. Typically, when you’re good and work arduous, they’ll discover you.

Cheers

Crispin Herrod-Taylor
Managing Director, Crookwood

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Not Susana Hoffs…however kinda catchy.

Cheers,

Jay Currie

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Wow, they’ve it!

Nice band, nice discover Bob, actually hope they make it. Will certainly be maintaining a tally of them. Hope to see them stay someday quickly.

Cheers,

Thor

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They’re horrible.

Joseph Koehler, CFP
President
WG Monetary

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Bob: One drawback is, as you already know, THEY DON’T WRITE ‘EM LIKE THIS ANY MORE:
However there was a time, Manner again when, , that THEY DID: https://t.ly/Q_qJK

Barry Lyons / Lease A Label

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“How did they know?”

Kelly Clarkson has coated their hit music.
They’ve appeared on The Late Present.
They only performed at Glastonbury 2 months in the past.
They’ve Fifteen very extremely produced “official VEVO” music movies on YouTube.
To say nothing of their professionally managed cross-platform social media technique.

The viewers knew the band’s songs as a result of the band is well-known. The Fonda holds simply 1200 seats so the viewers was curated.

And also you write this as if it was all an enormous shock. Hmmmmm?

Mark McLaughlin

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“Nothing Issues” was top-of-the-line songs from Final 12 months. However you wouldn’t understand it when you solely listened to radio.

Oedipus

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Fredricka Mercury

Mike Bone

Thanks to your type identify verify/ phrases within the story about The Final Dinner Occasion

In fact, I all the time like being reminded of the blessing and curse I had throughout that point and simply how totally different every part has modified. Not simply within the enterprise, however the truth that I’m hardly even probably the most highly effective individual in my kitchen now!!

Greatest and thanks once more for remembering

-Abbey!

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